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Sitting DucksUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5456915384191644466.post-22385440915268357732008-12-06T23:28:00.000+00:002008-12-06T23:28:00.000+00:00Fight,Fight,FIGHT,FIGHT!!!!Fight,Fight,FIGHT,FIGHT!!!!davidearlgrayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11253992641232430601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5456915384191644466.post-12776863793499146582008-11-29T21:09:00.000+00:002008-11-29T21:09:00.000+00:00If the RSPB were involved in sanctioning this murd...If the RSPB were involved in sanctioning this murder then we should withdraw our membership, in fact I already have.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02065862540385635452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5456915384191644466.post-88666140710833278382008-11-29T13:15:00.000+00:002008-11-29T13:15:00.000+00:00Agree Andy and from now on all anonymous postings ...Agree Andy and from now on all anonymous postings will be blocked! Let the spineless bastards stick to forums where they can spout their bile and have the advantage of hiding behind a pseudonym. By the way 1400 posts over six years - do the math TIT!!!Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13630311728159170799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5456915384191644466.post-30875035978314763642008-11-29T11:36:00.000+00:002008-11-29T11:36:00.000+00:00Yeah Mark, I don't know why you allow anonymous co...Yeah Mark, I don't know why you allow anonymous comments on here either, it just gives all the mouth-breathers from Birdforum another place to regurgitate crap they've heard someone else say. Wait a minute 1,422 posts Mark? Oi, Andy, are you calling Mark a mouth-breather? ANDY!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5456915384191644466.post-7394821810549049012008-11-29T11:08:00.000+00:002008-11-29T11:08:00.000+00:00I agree Canada Geese and the rapidly increasing Gr...I agree Canada Geese and the rapidly increasing Greylags should also be culled. We should do something about the parakeets too, all the other hole-nesters are gettting out-competed round my way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5456915384191644466.post-61785153233162208902008-11-29T11:02:00.000+00:002008-11-29T11:02:00.000+00:00Hi again I thought I'd done but no. In answer to ...Hi again I thought I'd done but no. In answer to the question of whether I'd be prepared to search for Ruddy nests next spring on any of my local patches the answer would be a resounding yes. If birds are to be controlled lets do it in at least a humane way. I certainly dont agree with the cull, but what really upsets me is the methods. The expense must be astronomical, unless of course the staff are all "volunteers".<BR/>I have been birdwatching around this area now for over 30 years. I have watched the dreaded Canada Goose slowly take over most if not all of our waters. The moorland reservoirs which once produced breeding Teal, Tufties, etc are now totally dominated by Canada Geese. An alien species which until very recently no-one has taken any steps to control and is now reaching plague proportions.<BR/>I dont like to see birds blown out of the water and dont like to see people enjoying doing it!!<BR/>There has got to be a better way surely,,,,,<BR/>franksidebottomsuncleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5456915384191644466.post-26136046372867709852008-11-29T11:00:00.000+00:002008-11-29T11:00:00.000+00:00So, just to check, Andy and Mark, I can put you do...So, just to check, Andy and Mark, I can put you down for nest monitoring next year then?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5456915384191644466.post-68721778670967661472008-11-29T09:56:00.000+00:002008-11-29T09:56:00.000+00:00I don't know why you allow anonymous comments on h...I don't know why you allow anonymous comments on here, Mark - it just gives all the mouth-breathers from Birdforum another place to regurgitate crap they've heard someone else say.The Leicester Llamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16726759603199971409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5456915384191644466.post-59035927542698856662008-11-29T07:27:00.000+00:002008-11-29T07:27:00.000+00:00Over 3 thousand individuals is the total populatio...Over 3 thousand individuals is the total population in Spain at just 78 sites! Bearing in mind that that was 7 years ago I suspect that the population is significantly higher now. <BR/>Given that all the other American Ducks have appeared in Europe in an apparently wild state, what's to say that Ruddy Ducks wouldn't have occurred and colonized without human aid. <BR/>Regardless of what we have learnt from the Ruddy fracas people still back schemes to introduce a population of Great Bustards. The population of Great Bustards in Spain are sedentary whereas the Kazakhstan birds (where the Salisbury birds originate from)are migratory. The introduced birds have already occurred in France. How long before they mix with the Spanish population and introduce their migratory genes?<BR/> <BR/>This is like telling the Catholics that there's no god a complete waste of time.Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13630311728159170799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5456915384191644466.post-33820775676924299302008-11-28T23:34:00.000+00:002008-11-28T23:34:00.000+00:00Whole population derived from just 6 individuals? ...Whole population derived from just 6 individuals? Are we talking about the Hebrides? Andy L.<BR/><BR/>Ps - Ruddy Duck cull is a necessary evil. However, from my own experience of wildfowlers they are all c*nts. Once the Ruddies are culled, the next vermin to be wiped out should be them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5456915384191644466.post-29358260483823777332008-11-28T22:37:00.000+00:002008-11-28T22:37:00.000+00:00Andy, Mark and Frank's Uncle, have you volunteered...Andy, Mark and Frank's Uncle, have you volunteered for Ruddy Duck nest searching all next spring to reduce the need for shooting?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5456915384191644466.post-30174491640108864592008-11-28T22:30:00.000+00:002008-11-28T22:30:00.000+00:00I was thinking about apologising for my sweaty soc...I was thinking about apologising for my sweaty sock comment earlier because I think it could be deemed racist in some way. I work with several Scottish guys who dont find it offensive and its a term used daily in light-hearted banter between workmates. I will apologise for that at least. I dont think this slanging match is doing anyone, birdwatchers or DEFRA employees any favours. But if government empoyees from DEFRA do get involved in this sort of slanging match, even anonamously, then I do find that somewhat sad. Thats it, I've done.franksidebottomsunclehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04821372315439328444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5456915384191644466.post-77581877906643245472008-11-28T21:53:00.000+00:002008-11-28T21:53:00.000+00:00Evening, who is the monkey who thinks 3,000 indivi...Evening, who is the monkey who thinks 3,000 individuals is a good population for a duck species? Not the same person who claimed this was a "sensible discussion" surely. Try looking up how many other species in Europe have a lower population,... Jebus Crust! I bet you're allowed to vote too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5456915384191644466.post-35874406792404084412008-11-28T21:49:00.000+00:002008-11-28T21:49:00.000+00:00Andy, thanks for sharing the extent of your educat...Andy, thanks for sharing the extent of your education (and artistic sensibilities) with us. Now run along and let the adults (particularly those with a more scientific bent) go about the job of conserving biodiversity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5456915384191644466.post-20492133181251645362008-11-28T21:18:00.000+00:002008-11-28T21:18:00.000+00:00And you might want to join the BNP, you retarded, ...And you might want to join the BNP, you retarded, brainwashed anonymous fuckwit. Why don't you have the balls to put your name to your comments if you feel that strongly about it?The Leicester Llamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16726759603199971409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5456915384191644466.post-9320438323071217312008-11-28T20:59:00.000+00:002008-11-28T20:59:00.000+00:00I think the problem is that the Ruddy/Whiteheaded ...I think the problem is that the Ruddy/Whiteheaded hybrids are also fertile therefore multiplying the problem somewhat, also not reporting sightings would make a mockery of the WeBs counts, and I don't think the 'sweaty sock' comment helps anything apart from show a low intellect.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5456915384191644466.post-85645338518774492442008-11-28T20:45:00.000+00:002008-11-28T20:45:00.000+00:00No one will ever know as no records of this specie...No one will ever know as no records of this species will ever be submitted from this locality again.<BR/><BR/>From Birdlife.<BR/><BR/>Spain In Spain, White-headed Duck breeds in ponds of Ciudad Real, Toledo, Alicante, Almer�a, M�laga, C�rdoba, C�diz, Huelva, Sevilla and Balearic Islands. Most of the breeding sites for the species are located in Andaluc�a. The species was almost extinct in 1977 when only 22 individuals Since then, there has been a clear increase, but with important fluctuations. The drought of the beginning of the 90's had a clear effect over O. leucocephala abundances. The September 2000 census gave an estimation of 4,489 individuals, which represents the highest level of abundance recorded so far. However the results of 2001 indicated an important reduction in comparison with 2000. The species is present in 78 wetlands The largest population is located in Andalucia. With respect to reproduction status, it has bred in 26 wetlands. 98 reproductive females have been documented and 385 chicks. In 2001 the situation has decreased to previous levels. Again, the cause is an important decrease in El Hondo chicks (just 18). However, something has happened in El Hondo but is not clear what.<BR/> Population size Population/range Season status<BR/> 2678 individuals (Sept. 2001) Increasing Resident<BR/><BR/>Getting on for 3,000 individuals and increasing. Hardly a species in trouble any more. Thanks for drawing my attention to that.Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13630311728159170799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5456915384191644466.post-46569650711827656842008-11-28T20:13:00.000+00:002008-11-28T20:13:00.000+00:00On this occasion there appeared to be no 'wrong' t...On this occasion there appeared to be no 'wrong' targets though a Coot was pursued at one point. Five rounds of shot in to one bird is hardly quick!! Post removed by administrator means just that. Mainly because some prick comes along and has a snide dig behind an anonymous post at people instead of contributing facts to a sensible discussion.Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13630311728159170799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5456915384191644466.post-83378796340838807522008-11-28T20:08:00.000+00:002008-11-28T20:08:00.000+00:00Do yourselves a favour, go to the Birdlife website...Do yourselves a favour, go to the Birdlife website and actually have a read. "I suspect the biggest contributory factor to any extinction is man", no sh*t Sherlock! Who do you think moves the aliens around? It is even worse when you start looking into the effect rats and cats but Ruddy Ducks are part of the same problem.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5456915384191644466.post-39616141855119617072008-11-28T19:57:00.000+00:002008-11-28T19:57:00.000+00:00How many birds were "left to die slowly, maimed" (...How many birds were "left to die slowly, maimed" (as you predicted on PlonkerForum). According to your photos and story it sounded all rather efficient. Were you disappointed?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5456915384191644466.post-53704299753627825142008-11-28T19:54:00.000+00:002008-11-28T19:54:00.000+00:00How many other species did you see shot? You sugge...How many other species did you see shot? You suggested on NonBIRDerFORUM that species would be mistakenly killed?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5456915384191644466.post-69822549180204613252008-11-28T19:53:00.000+00:002008-11-28T19:53:00.000+00:00I suspect the biggest contributory factor to any e...I suspect the biggest contributory factor to any extinction is man. Time to stop blaming alien species we were the ones who fuc*ed about with nature and when nature bites back we think we can sort it out by sticking a plaster on it. This scheme is doomed to fail as they only kill a percentage of what's really there. Remember the whole British population stemmed from 6 birds (4 males 2 females).Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13630311728159170799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5456915384191644466.post-28299668261540955832008-11-28T18:53:00.000+00:002008-11-28T18:53:00.000+00:00The biggest contributing factor to W-H ducks predi...The biggest contributing factor to W-H ducks predicament wasnt alien,,, it was Spanish hunters who almost shot the things into extinction,,,,, and any prizes for guessing one of the fastest increasing breeders in Spain???<BR/><BR/>PS can u play "duelling banjos" cos I think I saw you in a film oncefranksidebottomsunclehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04821372315439328444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5456915384191644466.post-81640895187586404412008-11-28T18:47:00.000+00:002008-11-28T18:47:00.000+00:00Alien species are the most common contributory fac...Alien species are the most common contributory factor in avian extinctions since the year 1500? See www.biodiversityinfo.org/sowb/default.php?r=sowbhome for more info. Of course, if your love of fluffy ickle ducky-wuckys is more important than protecting a globally threatened species then you might want to join the WI as opposed to the RSPB.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5456915384191644466.post-44255099296486222292008-11-28T17:03:00.000+00:002008-11-28T17:03:00.000+00:00The shooters we know locally openly admit that the...The shooters we know locally openly admit that they enjoy killing animals for fun. There is no debate. Whether or not the cull is necessary this seems a dreadful way to do it and I don't doubt for a moment that the folks carrying out the slaughter enjoy it. Reminded me of these brave heroes:<BR/>http://www.billsaiffoutdoors.com/fowlpro<BR/>The diving duck page is especially disturbing.Mike Watsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17603441622728307279noreply@blogger.com